Natalya: Russia is at war with the west already, and he always has been. And so whether or not any of our western allies believe that they are or not, the fact is that putton believes he is. This is about his attempt to destroy ukrane, which is clear a agenicite of the ukranian people. It's also about destroying the world order, the demo democratic world that we all take for granted every day. We are fighting an autocrat who wishes to destroy our system.

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