like they're you know there's the figurehead who I'd be fascinated to uh understand at a deeper level how they came to power in the first place and they're strong holding all the industries like you said with family members spread across to 175 behind the scenes yeah they're literally strangling the the arteries of that country and directing it towards themselves I mean how could they have anything but that level of poverty and lack of education

yeah I mean it's amazing and one of the kleptocrats who has been in the media for the last few years is the son and the president of apertory algenny it's a very small country on the west coast of africa tremendously oil rich and uh I have to give it to the french they've uh prosecuted him in absentia and found him guilty of money laundering and they seized like a 30 million dollar mansion a lamborghini and his his fleet of cars you know it's just the amount of money means they buy big things and when they buy big things like a yacht uh an aircraft there's something to seize and try to get that money back I'm testifying twice this year uh in my old FBI cases there was a 15 8 million dollar aircraft that was bought years ago with the proceeds of a shady oil deal out of nigeria and I traced the money to the aircraft uh before I retired from the bureau and uh I used to get a phone call every time it took off and landed you know is a lot provide the aircraft has just landed in jr. altar helping true in the morning thank you I brought it down I was waiting for it to land someplace that would honor a u.s. seizure ward and after I retired in 2020 it landed in canada and canada seized it for the government of nigeria and so I will be testifying to my tracing uh of the money to that aircraft and my knowledge of how it came to be and then I'm testing for uh testifying for the government of bengladesh in december uh yeah there's it was interesting I testified in bengladesh in 2011 and I believe I'm the only law enforcement officer who's ever testified in a bengladesh court but that was a unique experience right I mean uh so

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