In this episode of the Reboot Podcast, Jerry sits down with Koshin Paley Ellison, co-founder the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care, to talk about his latest book, "Untangled". In his work as a contemplative caregiver, Koshin seeks to better understand the causes of suffering and works to nurture sources of strength such as resilience and compassion. In their time together, Jerry and Koshin contemplate epigenetic trauma and the varying ways our personal suffering can be tangled by the experiences of our ancestors. They marvel at the power of love, and the healing that can come from bearing witness to our own suffering and the suffering of others. Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Follow our step by step guides: - How To: Leave a Review on Your Computer: - How To: Leave a Review on Your iPhone: Never miss an episode! Sign up for our newsletter to stay up to date on all our episode releases.