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Dan Carlin's Hardcore History: Addendum

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Are We Winning or Losing?

Bob Greene: How do you gauge progress, whether or not you're winning or losing? He says there used to be a way of judging that was pretty easy. Now it's not so easy anymore with stateless actors like ISIS and suicide bombers. Greene: In this kind of war, how do you judge where you are? I don't think we have a ready answer to that.

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