Father Dave: I feel like the organizations that promote gambling, even there's a level of gambling, which is in wagers. They're making their money off of people that they are hoping to addict to their product. He says many slot machines and stuff are built to try to addiction. Father Dave: My wife got trapped up in this game about saving pandas. She likes playing games every once in a while. But she was suddenly like, oh, what's going on here? You know exactly how much you get from Apple time.