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Carceral Sinism and Ableism
Some of the rhetoric, I think, is really honestly in other interviews, like it's not even hidden. In some of it is like this, again, it's like benevolence, caring approach for caring for our most marginalized and so on. They're absolutely not they're done in our name, right? Disabled people of mad people, self advocates and so on are not meant for us. And so it's a kind of a warning cry or you can call it a litmus test, right? We have a lot of these kind of litmus tests. Is it is it reformist or is it a bullish?"