Kate is back on the podcast listeners. Third appearance. Who has been on the podcast the most times and what is the number of times other than you? I think that probably my brother James. How many of you done? 800 and something. Yeah so you know still quite a good number 8% or something like that. Is that 8% listeners? Oh I was guessing. Well if it's800 divided by 60, well 80 would be 10%. So you're not about 60. You got too well to be in this job. It's complicated. Let it go. As I clearly have not done. No well you know but there's letting things go and then there's just remembering