I love looking at the what is, I don't even like the word broken. Let's say interesting or complex. And in conflict. Yeah. The more friction there is, the more kind of splintering, right? That's exactly right. What was appealing about things like alcohol and to a lesser extent drugs was the guaranteed experience of it. Coke made you more. It was like, there was suddenly four walls around me for the first time. You know, but he says you've got to first,. if you're investigating why you're an addict, it’s like, well, what is it giving me for us?

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