The first thing we talked about which is willingness to you know continue to iterate yeah i think it depends on the type of person and what drives them right. There's almost two modalities for long-term success there's probably more but two that come to mind immediately uh one is that quest for knowledge relevant to technology and innovation and that keeps you current and interested. The second is organization building so if you're somebody who really wants to build out an organization it can effectively become a de facto platform by which you maintain relevance, he says.

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