I think that there is progress I mean you know your work Cliff has started to turn the super tanker around. We're both old enough to remember the the dark days whereas policing at the end of a truncheon was just normal and that has begun to change so yeah I do have some confidence with it. If we had a bit longer I could tell you quite a lot of positives that have come out of Hillsborough Law  and inquiries that I've been involved in the lessons from Hillsborough have made a difference, he says. He's definitely a glass half full Whereas I'm definitely a glassHalfEmpty kind of guy but more than more than happy to do that. should we agree