"I wake up fairly early my self, thinking six, six 30 was early. And then as the conversation for kept moving on, i realized that youre early, met four a m." "For me, most creative and am o in my flow state when when everybody else is asleep, and like, the world hasn't really woken up," he says. 'Thereis crippling fear of, like, are you going to ever reach your potential? Where is the ceiling?'

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