I just don't think we're going to get to the bottom of it the way that things are currently set up. I found him really good to work with by and large, very, very good manager. It's not about me being the good guy or the bad guy either, although there has been a lot of that. But really, guys, it isn’t about me. And it isn't about him. Look at the material and make your mind up as to whether on balance we are better off knowing it. We do the podcast again when it's recorded. I'm looking in now. Yeah. Well, it sounds then pretty much like unless more stuff comes out of