Outro

IM Danny Rensch is a former child prodigy turned Chief Chess Officer of Chess.com, the largest chess website in the world. Danny rejoined me 8 years after his first visit to the podcast (Episode 18) to discuss all that is new with Chess.com. Inevitably, this means a detailed discussion of online cheat detection, and whether Chess.com thinks that their increased deterrence methods are working. But there is a lot more to discuss including:

• What goes into decisions of choosing commentators for an event?
• Lessons learned from some P.R. missteps related to the closing of Chess24, and changes to the Chessable product offerings. 
• Upcoming TV shows and documentaries related to chess. Why are so many of these shows related to cheating?
• Danny’s forthcoming memoir about growing up in a cult

It is always fun to get a glimpse behind the curtain at the world’s biggest chess company, and you are sure to learn something about “chess business” in this conversation. Timestamps of topics discussed are below. 

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0:00- We discuss cheat detection. Is publicly disclosing cheaters deterring other from potential cheaters? What about their new proprietary browser, Proctor? 

The two interviews/videos we reference are here:

Greg Mustreader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4fGt3MbF0I

State of Chess.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lQ47SuBLU8&t=8428s

15:00- Is OTB cheating as common as online cheating? 

21:00- What was the story behind future GM Alireza Firouzja’s account being erroneously closed due to fair play some years ago?

Mentioned: GM Lenier Dominguez 

28:00- We briefly discuss Danny’s forthcoming memoir, Dark Squares: How Chess Saved My Life

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Squares-Chess-Saved-Life/dp/1541703286

31:00- How can the chess world move away from predominantly cheating-based mainstream coverage?

Mentioned: 

Netflix documentary:

https://www.chess.com/news/view/netflix-unveils-carlsen-niemann-documentary-for-2025

Forthcoming Movie:

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64565309/

BBC’s Chess Masters: The Endgame:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0028x4d

37:00- Are there too many professional chess tournaments with too little differentiation between events? 

Mentioned:

Coachchamps Improver Challenge:

https://www.chess.com/news/view/announcing-coachchamps-2025

Also mentioned: Caitlin Clark, Judit Polgar

48:00- How does Chess.com decide which commentators to feature in which events?

Mentioned: GM Daniel Naroditsky, GM Robert Hess

51:00- What lessons were learned from backlash against the Chess24 closure and recent changes to access to Short and Sweet courses on Chessable?

Mentioned: Info on Chessable’s 2025 changes to Chessable Short and Sweet Access:

https://www.chessable.com/blog/new-year-big-changes-to-chessable-pro/

1:00:00- What 2025 events is Danny excited for?

Mentioned:

Pogchamps

https://www.chess.com/news/view/announcing-pogchamps-6-field

Speed Chess Championships, ESports World Cup 

1:03:00- Is Chess.com still thinking of becoming publicly traded at some point? Would Danny retire in the near future? 

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