How to Pitch Someone That Thinks They're Going to Say No

(***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Jim “Mad Dog” Lawler is a spy, nuclear weapons expert, and author. Mad Dog was a 25-year Covert CIA Nuclear Spy who carried out missions around the world and became one of the agency’s most decorated senior officers. He is allegedly no longer in the CIA and has become a prolific author in his “retirement.” Mad Dog Lawler’s books are fictional spy thrillers “based on” his personal experiences at the CIA.

BUY “In The Twinkling of an Eye” by Jim Lawler: https://amzn.to/3FCYqzd

BUY “Living Lies” by Jim Lawler: https://amzn.to/3FIDHdr

0:00 - How Jim joined the CIA; What is a Case Officer?

12:28 - Jim: I am a sociopath

25:54 - The assets CIA recruits & how they do it

31:13 - Jim’s first asset recruit story; How Jim pitched people to become traitors

45:46 - America’s role in the world; A funny asset story

52:54 - How polygraphs work; How CIA paid foreign spies

57:40 - Did you ever lose a spy?

1:03:55 - How contact with CIA at Langley HQ works

1:06:04 - How Jim Became a Nuclear Spy; The Khan Network

1:15:17 - Appealing to different cultures

1:25:35 - How CIA approached changed post Sepp 011; Libya & WMD

1:29:17 - CIA paramilitary ops in Afghanistan

1:33:49 - Jim revisits Iraq & Nuclear Weapons

1:38:15 - Former CIA Director George Tenet’s career

1:48:11 - Politics in the CIA & Gov Agencies

1:54:19 - CIA involvement in Iran; Iranians developing nuke?

2:00:17 - The Iran Nuclear Deal; Jim’s books’ ties to Iran

2:06:03 - The current uprising in Iran

2:12:49 - Russia Ukraine War; Putin’s status

2:21:38 - Does US have say over Ukraine & Zelensky?

2:27:12 - The 4th Turning; Fears of Nuclear Weapon Use

2:36:37 - The protests in China against the CCP

2:42:53 - Chinese spies; The US’ main foreign foe, according to Jim

2:50:09 - How Jim got the name “Mad Dog”

Intro Credits:

“Body of Lies” (2008)

AP

CNN

CSPAN

“The Devil’s Double” (2011)

“The Dictator” (2012)

Journeyman.TV

VICE News

~

Get $150 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover (USING CODE: “TRENDIFIER”): https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier

Julian's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey

~

Music via Artlist.io

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices