Taylor Swift as an Underdog Example

In this episode, Dr. Killeen talks about why people naturally root for those who stay humble—and quietly pull away from those who forget where they started. Using an unexpected example (yep, Taylor Swift), he unpacks how “underdog energy” builds trust, loyalty, and support long after success shows up. The takeaway for dentists and leaders is simple: remember the grind, stay grounded, and never lose the humility that helped you earn the win in the first place.