I always start every project with dance, I realize that like i need to understand something through the language of movement in order to understand what i'm making. And then the words actually come almost last. There is too much natural ism in that close proximity might also feel very uncomfortable. But when we're in a more figurative space, it gives us all a little bit of permission to suspend our disbelief. It might almost be like the uncanny valley that the audience is like, this isn't quite real, but it is real.

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