I've spent almost my whole life looking at pictures. My childhood heroes were Mary Cassatt, John Singer Sargent, Renoir. And so when I'm making a picture of somebody lying on a bed, in my head somewhere is probably there's a muddigliani of a woman lying on a couch. There's lots of precedence for that. So it's in your mind, and it informs the way that you see the world. It would be really easy to say poetry's boring, I don't understand it, or it's just a massive word anyone can do it,. But the more practice I have in being familiar with reading poems, the better I understand them.

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