Surveillance State, Inside China's Quest to Launch a New Era of Social Control

Corbin Barthold: Liza Lin, I'm very curious what's on your mind and sort of what you're looking closely at these days. She joins us to talk about the system of export controls in the U.S.-China relationship. What would be the next shoe to fall when it comes to US China export controls? And how close are they looking to stymie Chinese Chinese development on quantum computing? This has been the Tech Policy Podcast. Please go give us that five star rating wherever you listen.