Sach: We want people who are contrarias a in general, because it could be that the group's main stream ideas are wrong. But i think what's happening partly in the world right now is tha um people have lost the romance that they have about diversity of opinion. All of a sudden we've come to a point where we don't like bad opinions. And that doesn't seem to bode well for the future survival of many of the societies that are that are doing this. Sach: Yes, i totally agree. I think that for sorvival is necessary, like to have these different opinions and somehow to prevent society from going all in on one single modor decision