The only place to go when you hit the bottom is up. Glen and i sometimes, i somehow think that that we're kindred spirits in this way. In fact, all three of you igo bac rather than go. So was that a way, because you talked about doing the destructive things, ruining your life to do something big enough to show your pain? And how does one decide? Cause most people are like, ok, got to get shmesha together. You like, no, i'm going to go hike 11 hundred miles.

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