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The Difficult Part of Starting a Startup
"There's something about doing this inside of a big company. Like, even when we were in a startup, it's like, we felt that," he says. "It was super, super hard, really rewarding and learned so much"
This is my conversation with Jesse Pollak. He led retail engineering at Coinbase for many years — building Coinbase, Coinbase Pro, and Coinbase Wallet. More recently, he is leading the development of Base, Coinbase's L2 built on the OP Stack.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:01:43) - sponsor: Optimism (optimism.io)
(00:03:07) - motivation behind Base
(00:11:12) - pitching Base to the Coinbase exec team
(00:14:24) - challenges of innovating on a schedule
(00:17:54) - failing repeatedly to find the right answer
(00:22:09) - decision to build an L2 with Michael
(00:23:30) - convincing Surojit Chatterjee, Coinbase’s CPO
(00:24:59) - launching Base internally
(00:31:58) - blockchains as serverless compute
(00:36:53) - uniswap as a serverless API for currency conversion
(00:39:30) - the power of small but leveraged teams
(00:42:31) - how to straddle product building in the onchain and offchain world
(00:45:25) - sponsor: Privy (privy.io)
(00:51:22) - the significance of THIS moment in Crypto
(00:53:56) - getting a 100M devs and 1B users onchain
(00:57:02) - how the NFT UX will change with Base
(01:10:13) - how crypto will be incorporated in applications
(01:14:00) - the risk of onchain heterogeneity
(01:17:27) - building privacy-oriented onchain platforms
(01:26:00) - upgrading the financial system
(01:28:33) - attending Quaker School
(01:34:43) - relentless positivity in life
(01:38:47) - building a better future
Jesse Pollak:
jesse.xyz on ETH - https://jesse.xyz/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/jessepollak
Github - https://github.com/jessepollak
Links:
Base - https://base.org/
Coinbase - https://www.coinbase.com/
Brian Armstrong - https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong
Surojit Chatterjee Coinbase’s CPO - https://www.coinbase.com/blog/welcome-surojit-chatterjee-coinbases-chief-product-officer
OP Stack - https://stack.optimism.io/
Uniswap - https://uniswap.org/
Goldfinch - https://goldfinch.finance/
Zora - https://zora.co/
Thank you to our sponsors for making this podcast possible:
Optimism - https://optimism.io
Privy - https://privy.io
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Produced by - https://spectral.to
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice or a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.
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