I didn't grow up in a household where you saw people like working out on a regular basis, right? My brother-in-law who you've met before, Dr. Neil Patel, he was always evenlike in high school and I kind of knew of him a little bit before him and my sister got married. He was the first person that I saw close to me like consistently working out like that was their identity. And so going back to the underrated overrated, I think exercise in simple forms of exercise overrated.

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