The Debate on Virus Manipulation and Public Health

Mark Halperin begins the show discussing the two most powerful people in the Trump administration - Stephen Miller and JD Vance. Then Senator Rand Paul joins to discuss the negative comments he's hearing from his constituents about tariffs, the fallacies he says the need for tariffs are based on, why the trade deficit is "meaningless accounting," his efforts to fight "risky research," his favorite Trump admin disruptors, and more. Then Democratic veterans Steve Elmendorf and Karen Skelton join to discuss the state of the Democratic party, what they can learn from Trump, and what 2028 Democratic hopefuls need to change to win back voters.