Do You Have a Debud in Iron?

I was the chief calf holder in those days and we'd have a fire with a debud in iron. And I used to hold the calves as they were, the buds were burnt off and that, of course, he suffered pain. Of course, he was sore and he puts mime on him after and there was no anesthetic and that will come and practice. But that was in some ways lucky for them up to some animals who missed the system and they maybe would pass them in that had horns on. That was putting an altar on those cows with the horns that we wanted to remove once because horns were quite dangerous when you were walking past the cows.