i would advise a student to basically follow that path unless they basically found here that they just you know for whatever reason couldn't follow that path. who's commercially published or traditionally published yeah i mean are there extraordinary examples like um yeah victor frankles man search for meaning supposedly was written in a handful of daysYeah but also digested out of your journals that were kept frequent an extensive amount of time and I don't know if those then went to a publisher and there was significant editing after them, he says.

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