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The Demand for DeFi
Andrew: I think there are some interesting parallels between the roll up space and roll ups as a service and private block chains. You can go on coin desk and scroll back through a couple years worth of articles of different public companies and government organizations doing these evaluations of blockchain technology for different business needs. And then in terms of the vertical, are you seeing a lot of demand for DeFi or is this for the most part non-financial applications? Just would love to get a sense of what you're seeing in the field right now.