The Political Instability in Russia and the Events of the Last Week May Turn Out Not to Have a Long Lasting Effect

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There's a lot of support among the Russian rank and file for the Wagner group, which are seen as kind of effective shock troops. I'm sure that's being expressed in conversation between Russian troops now because of how chaotic things have been way further back from the front lines. The likelihood of big enough demoralization or some chain of political events leading to a collapse of the Russian troops seems higher now than it did a week ago.

Tim Mak is a writer, reporter, and founder of the online publication The Counteroffensive. He was formerly the Washington Investigative Correspondent for National Public Radio.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tim Mak discuss the slow progress of Ukraine’s counteroffensive and how a big breakthrough might come about; how the collective experience of resisting Russian aggression has contributed to a shared sense of Ukrainian national identity; and what the future may hold for a post-war Ukraine.

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