Is It Just You Don't Believe It or Is It?

"It seems to be this sort of very short term story that we still hold," he says. "How do how might we shift to this longer term view of our, of our place? You know, you watch that film and you look at the, I can't remember, is it the quitch that the, the indigenous people in Alaska, but that are featured?" He adds: 'There's some really, really powerful ideas out there that are already working'

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