Introduction

Joy Clark: Today on the case podcast, I'm going to be talking to Rich Hickey about closure and all of the reasons why closure is the way it is. So we've had two episodes on closure so far, one with Alex Miller about closure and one with David Nolan about closure script. We'll link those in the show notes. But in this episode, I want to concentrate kind of on the why question. You are the creator of closure. So why did you write closure?