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Breaking the Boxes: Race, Gender and Vulnerability with Chris Rivas

The Man Enough Podcast

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I Can Show Up in the World - That's an End, I'm Sorry, Liz.

"There's something that doesn't feel like enough for me about it," she says. "I don't know if I agree with you only because I think that what he's talking about and the way that he's describing showing up in the world, while it might not be the language of like, I could be a better man by doing this or creating space for women,. et cetera." She adds: "If I can learn how to breathe, then I'm helping others breathe"

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