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Episode 352: Jenny Odell

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How to Take Back Your Time for Yourself

Sally Kohn: I have a really unusual and highly privileged life situation where my work is something that I find meaningful, which is the vast majority of people don't like their jobs. She says she was just so excited to write about this thing that she kind of wasn't thinking past like pub date. "I talk in the book about how I really like art that is almost like an empty space"

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