14. Deus Ex Growth Machina (ft. Aaron Benanav)
This Machine Kills
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Is There a Speed of Transformation?
I think we live in a time of potentially quite rapid change actually you know. It's hard to say how what the speed of transformation is going to be and I guess my take is that I'm not optimism and pessimism aren't really the right words for it, he says. He draws on utopian energies and science fiction energies to try to imagine or put forward a vision of a total of a different world one that has economic security and freedom that doesn't look like the horrible world we currently find ourselves in.
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