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Will Semi Conductors Really Be Superimportant in 20 Years?
Ben: I think generally industrial policy is kind of bad and doesn't work. But i'm torn in this case, because there are a few cases where you might want to do it. There's maybe a national defense region here, maybe the semi conductor bet. Ben: Whether this is going to actually help us win, or whether we could have won without it, as is much more a, there's much more debate there.