The Russians' Miscalculation of the Ukraine War

"I never bought the Neocon party line from the for a minute that he was trying to do a strategic decapitation to be crayon. I think if anything, it was a stretch goal, right? It's a kind of classic and kickstarter terms is a stretch goal," says Peter Bergen. "If not, well, you know, then we back off and we do our we do our thing and then we turn the whole thing into a big war of attrition."