The thing I focus on first is what content or event offer and those are the world I dwell in. So for an example, based on the conversation today, right, if Daniel is like, hey, by the way, you can go download this product marketing playbook. Go get it now. That's like the true media company in my book is like when you actually embrace that like content is the way to drive business instead of having content as a way to support other marketing fund.

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