Sally Kohn: I have a provisional explanation for your, the rise in listenership and the passion that I hear from a lot of people who listen to your podcast. She says it's combining these elements of the ritual of meditation with an interest in explaining why the world is the way it is. And then third, her interest in coming up with a kind of moral code of behavior, applying science to thinking through how we should live. Kohn: It allows me a unique vantage point on how we can combine our growing understanding of the world and ourselves through science.