I Don't Like This Conclusion

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"I was a materialist by the fot in that sense. And i always thought it's very comforting to know that at some point, all of your problems, all of your suffering, everything that you dislike, will all be gone," he says. "But again, i thinke the western way of thinking about the after life is that you are still existing, and you're going somewhere to this place,. which is still kind of a physical way of thinking."

In this expansive conversation, Michael Shermer speaks with Bernardo Kastrup, the executive director of Essentia Foundation. His work has been leading the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism, the notion that reality is essentially mental. He has a Ph.D. in philosophy (ontology, philosophy of mind) and another Ph.D. in computer engineering (reconfigurable computing, artificial intelligence). Shermer and Kastrup discuss: materialism, idealism, dualism, monism, panpsychism, free will, determinism, consciousness, the problem of other minds, artificial intelligence, out of body and near-death experiences, model dependent realism, and the ultimate nature of reality.