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Tema Okun on Her Mythical Paper on White Supremacy

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Is Excellence Still a Thing?

"Excellence is still a thing as long as we're cautious about how we collectively define it," he says. "We learn so much to wear mistakes, and I think that's the only way to even aspire to being excellent" He adds: "If people are trying to get around being responsible for themselves ... they'll find another tool"

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