The Greens Don't Want to Sacrifice Nature

I don't think most people really view it. It's stronger than conventional religion now. But in a sense, it's more widespread, but it's very diluted and not in the sense of sacred and worship. People may identify with that. I say like all of this stuff is lip service. And this is what we're talking about. In general, we want to make the world a livable place for humans. We want a pro-human relationship with the rest of nature. We don't want to sacrifice to the rest ofnature.