How Did You Find an Audience Early On?

The first big thing that happened was getting featured on apple pod casts. Then i also did some p r reaching out to people and just building relationships through conferences. And then i met a lot of people that, you know, how similar size shows were at the time. I don't even think i had to travel. It was actually close to me. So it was easy for me to go. The next one was california. That must have bee the year before,. cause i have not been, i think the chicago was 20 16. And so they would create something about financial news for my show. And so i tried to lean into those cross promos or try to get