The world that Brits and Americans fought for in the Second World War was was a world in which there, there was a framework of ideas. If you don't honor gay marriage, we will force you publicly to to to honor it. There's no such thing anymore as as a personal view and a private position. Now, if you're the kind of person who thinks that that the old liberalism, where where we we inculcated and attempted to hand on religious liberties, if you think that that's not worth worth fighting for., he says.