i'm emily yafe. i wrote a story for the board of advisers of persuasion called a taxonomy of fear. In it, i wanted to look at the elements of cancel culture and how we can best fight some of those elements. I think donald trump gives us a very good example of what happens when people see something going very wrong on their side. We have trumpism now because republicans who surely disagree with many of his policy s, his tone, the way he speaks about people other countries, have failed to stand up. That is em powered trump. It has brought fear to their party.
Irshad Manji has a lot of experience in trying to persuade those who really don’t want to be persuaded.
Early in her career, Irshad wrote two influential books that advocated for a reformed Islam. In conversations with religious conservatives around the world, she found that a combative style did not help her win adherents for her cause; instead, she started to acknowledge their views—before proudly arguing for her own. Now, Irshad runs the Moral Courage project, a pedagogical approach that hopes to make progress on contested issues like racism without shaming its participants.
On the latest episode of The Good Fight, Yascha Mounk talks to Irshad about why we should not judge those who disagree with us; how we can hope to persuade them of our own positions; and why we should be more optimistic about America’s future than is now fashionable.
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