John: A lot of philosophy is almost these things that are unknowable, right? The essence of life, you know, those types of things. And yet we read Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius, Aristotle, Hume,. We read things that were written 200, 500, 2000 years ago. What is it that we might have to say that would be relevant and meaningful to some of those future generations? John: Let's just cut it off before I dig a deeper hole.

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