There is a certain pattern of behavior here that is different from the way that most ministers are. But in terms of public relations, I was going to say, you know, they use it to attack him with, but they never said, whoa? And then this other thing is sort of collateral damage that they've been so dehumanized and made invisible because of somehow their status as cult members. They're really not part of the story. It's Koresh that's the enemy and he's got to get gotten. Okay. Here's where we start with the guns as first in terms of what it meant to the group and what they were doing. And then of course, how that