What stories do is they give us a means to sort of practice those skills In a context where there's not going to be bad consequences. There's some empirical data that backs that up as well that narratives can help um increase our social skills I like that because when we first met we discussed uh, it was right around the time that breaking bad was coming to its conclusion and  I was What I what I love about the idea of a show like that or any kind of story that has a strong anti-hero is that you are still compelled to pull for these characters.

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