We advise a sort of fractal arrangement, a federated arrangement to enable people and to have a federated center of excellence. So we're not being prescriptive around you must do scrum or you must do some form of scrum scaled. It could be the Kanban method. Like I said, it was actually take your 12 month waterfall. There were six months waterfall. Once you've done that, do three month waterfalls. Before you know it, you're exhibiting agility without doing agile. And now there is one thing that is needed, however, for that to be successful, there has to be an incentive. Because if there isn't an incentive to change, people

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