DevOps - What I Loved About You and Jean and Jez

I was frustrated with you because I kept trying to explain do this stuff is good and then in one day you sort of said okay I get it and then I was mad at you but the thing I realized wait a minute he's the idea skeptic there was no other way he would accept DevOps other than taking a long haul critical thinking analysis of it. And yeah there's a number of John Willis quotes that I use and they all come from when we were talking about the debate. The best ideas are forged in fire. That's all. We got we had a one year I mean we're if everybody who listens here we were dear dear friends and they're able bring me a little