Travis Kalanik is one of the best people I've met in my life. All of his heart is completely in the right place. He's not a maniacally driven insane person that's like willing to make a kamakaze run at the US government. Most of them aren't run through walls kind of people. And most of them can like Jimmy Chen's a good anti-bahn example. They basically have built a fintech layer on top of the food stamp slash EBT system and allow people that are on EBT to, you can call it, am I not supposed to call it EBT anymore? What's it called? It's called something else

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