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271: Michael Shellenberger's Punk Rock Moment

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

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We Have Enough Gas to Get Us Through the Winter

"This whole business to bring it back to Armageddon, this thing that so many people are desperately trying to avoid in 12 years is literally on Germany's doorstep today," he says. "I don't think there was ever a conspiracy or nobody got together and said, we're going to destroy civilization." He adds: If you can't produce those fundamentals of civilization, if you disrespect the dirty jobs, which you have so eloquently reappreciated,. Thank you.

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