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And you fast forward 12 months and now you've got the architecture where the AI can run its own QA testing and debugging, and the AI can run its own kind of UX. Sales and marketing? Customer support? It's own UX of the application, and it can run everything. So you're basically going to say, I want this app to do this. It builds it, it tests it, it builds the UX, it tests the ux it iterates the ux it does everything streamlined for you and then you show up a couple hours later and you're using a new product that was built on the fly for you it is and we're literally like climbing this ladder gavin like very quickly that it's going to totally change this
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the entire software industry is like getting re-architected i could guess freeberg's app at his company hackathon. What do you think I made? I made a vegan version of Yelp. Only profiles all the vegan restaurants.
Speaker 3
I actually tried to make a CRM tool so that I wouldn't have to pay for CRM licenses. I tried nine months ago to make
Speaker 2
a multiplayer. Shout out Mark Benioff. Sorry, go ahead, Gavin.
Speaker 1
I tried nine months ago to make a multiplayer app for Skyrim, which I was very excited about. Skyrim's a video game. That's cool. But I do think I failed. Maybe I should give it another go. But the... You learned. You didn't fail. I learned. I learned. I didn't fail. I learned. Yeah, I have a growth mindset. We
Speaker 3
learned the limits. We all tested the limits. Yes, we stress tested the app.
Speaker 1
But I think next year the human language will be the dominant programming language totally
Speaker 3
totally awesome it's totally
Speaker 2
yeah it's it's you really made a great insight earlier gavin with you know startups is where you see these innovations happen and i always say internally resource constraints really do drive innovation and when you only have a nickel you got to try to get a dollar out of it when you got a dollar and you got a lot of dollars you're like it's okay if i get a nickel out of a dollar i got more dollars laying right over here and dylan always talked about this as well like they they asked him like why did blood on the tracks like why did you do that it was incredible like it's this rolling star interviewer was talking to Dylan about he said this was like my favorite album and this is incredible whatever and like what was the inspiration take me behind it and he said well you know I owed Columbia Records an album and they had given me an advance and they were going to sue me and I had to give the money back and I had just gone through a divorce and I needed the money and I couldn't do it. So I wrote the album. I was desperately crushed that Dylan's, one of his best albums and pieces of art in his life was strictly a function of the pressure of... Necessity
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is the mother of both technical and creative invention.
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Absolutely. All right, everybody. Four.
Speaker 1
Thanks, guys. Gavin
Speaker 2
Baker, Joe Lonsdale, David Friedberg. And we miss you, Saks, taking a victory day. And it's taking victory day today. And Chamath, both out of the office today. I am the world's greatest moderator. And we'll see you next time on the All In Podcast. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. We'll
Speaker 1
let your winners ride. Rain
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Man David Sack. And
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it said we open source it to the fans,
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and they've just gone crazy with it. Love you, Wes. I'm the queen of Q1.
Speaker 3
Besties are gone. That is my dog taking a race in your driveway.
Speaker 2
We should all just get a room and just have one big huge orgy, cause they're all just useless. It's like this sexual tension, but they just need to release them out. Wet your feet. Wet
Speaker 1
your feet. We need to get merch.
Speaker 3
I'm going all in